I think it's a case of the over whelming policy of fear that gets shoved down their throats so much, like a psychological blurb that remains back in their heads
you could call it a hidden psychosis that pops open whenever a big disaster happens,............... I'm not too sure if I find it funny or sad, maybe both.
isn't it interesting that the watchtower organization does not require 2 witnesses to prove an allegation of adultery.
if the elders, for example, believe a christian wife who says she's been cheated on, but her husband refuses to acknowledge this to anyone else but her, she can state in writing that her spouse committed adultery and she will be free to remarry if the elders simply believe her!.
yet, this same rule does not apply to pedophilia!.
This is the archaic stupidity of using ancient social morals and practices developed 2 thousand years ago
Those ancient laws of past weren't exactly fair and just after all were they, thanks to modern social awareness
but surprising as it is there are still today religious backed cultures that will stone to death an adulterous woman but not a man.
given the often devastating consequences of disassociation and disfellowshipping isn't it fair that those studying with the jws should be explicitly warned about these precedures in advance so that they know where they walking into?
so that they would be able to better judge whether they want to become jws and potentially risk losing jw family and friends at some future time?
how many of you would get baptised into the cult if you really knew about the policies of dfing and shunning?
Good comment Fairmind........the policy of fear brings the policy of power to those who seek it !
the enticing advancement of power is all too alluring in the minds of men, isn't it ? that is why these types of religions start !
a recent thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/139118/1.ashx ) raised the issue of charles taze russell not being the first president of the watchtower... it appears to be an argument of semantics because the society had a different name (as one poster pointed out in the thread).
the watchtower society obviously has some embarassment over this issue because the amendments to the revelation book dealt with this :.
full size scans here :.
It's also been noted that Mr.Connelly was the first President of the WTS and a major share holder of the publishing company. He was also a president of a bank, hence he had access to
money and was willing to help Charley out with his little venture, it didn't sound like the Russells, Charles and his father Joseph were willing to dump all their money on this business
venture though.
I was just wondering if the statue of liberty and it's message of freedom for Americans was in part responsible for him taking an opportunistic advantage as a power player.
Could be........... the enticing advancement of power is all too alluring in the minds of men, isn't it ?
DAM A BOLT OF LIGHTING JUST MISSED ME ....................SHEESH
i got a pm asking this question.
how would a jws radar go up if you were leaning toward questioning things or even showing information from the society's own publications that was damning toward them?
Yes it does appear that the WTS is starting to crank the mental vise harder on the followers, the WT only members issue is one of those examples. It seems they are trying to put more
security measures on their established theocracy. The information about them on the inter-net can only be seen as very damaging and they're taking this as a personal threat to their power
structure.The biggest problem for them at the moment is the inter-net, it's their biggest Apostate, they can not shut it down, put a muzzle on it, or disfellowship it. The boys in Bethel are
indeed squirming in their pants. In fact their legal department, with some their lowly slaves are constantly scanning web sites to see if their lawyers can thwart those operators with law suits.
This Tower of Power has to be brought down for humanity's sake and I'm willing and able to join in on this particular task, so help me Homerovah !
By the way does anyone know of the growth rate in the States or Canada for that matter in the last few years ?
Just curious
Yes your unfortunately correct Nvr.
any thoughts?
Great post Mini, an important one for all the thousands of lurkers that come to this forum Jw or not, a little empathic compassion
can make the difference in this world of fear and delusion. I'd have to agree with Terry's comments about trying to leave the grasp of the WTS cold turkey
without doing any intellectual investigation. I've seen people try and allot fail, do too not having the intellectual support around them, only to return to the Kingdom halls
in a state of mental limbo. The constant and overwhelming programing of fear that is put over the individuals by the WTS is their mainstay of control and is likewise with
so many other religions like this. In fair play the men that start these religions are using their own ability of free thinking to create and develop their chosen kingdoms,
why would not be correct then for free thinking individuals to throughly examine these kingdoms to see if they are justifiable in holding such power.
Maybe we can impress to the people that the WTS is more of a commercialized business rather than a spiritually guided true religion.
I know taking this avenue has a very good success rate, also tuning the clock backwards on the WTS in an investigating way has proven to be a very good approach also.
This all not too surprising giving that better education and social awareness in the more developing countries, another interesting fact too is religious attendance in Europe has been
been on a down swing and has been for years
Thank you poster
given the often devastating consequences of disassociation and disfellowshipping isn't it fair that those studying with the jws should be explicitly warned about these precedures in advance so that they know where they walking into?
so that they would be able to better judge whether they want to become jws and potentially risk losing jw family and friends at some future time?
how many of you would get baptised into the cult if you really knew about the policies of dfing and shunning?
Thats a very good point your making Greedawn, all of the encompassing rules and regulations are not put forth and made apparent to the newly interested ones. They get the big welcoming
smiles and did you know that we are god's only true religion on earth at present and did you know that god is soon to destroy this wicked system of things at Armageddon and turn this earth
back to Paradise where we can live forever, now would you like to join us to live in Paradise or would you rather be destroyed by the hands of Jehovah. This is how the first hook is set to
the newly interested ones that are just starting to study with the witnesses, the so called spiritually guided and intrusive set of rules comes a long way down the indoctrination and
unfortunately catches many unwilling off guard. Whether people realize it or not there is a carefully devised and strategic marketing strategy going on here. As far as the dfing policy
that is in place I think some men want to impress themselves and others that they really do have the power of god in their hands and dfing someone is just that vehicle to prove that point.
For example my nephew was dfed last year for touching his girlfriend's private parts. and even I thought that was an extreme abuse of power, I kept on wondering at the time how many
men on that JC had probably did the very same thing with their girlfriends before they were married. But I guess power is power after all and isn't that really the main reason that men
start religions in the first place,.............. oh ya I forgot to sell stuff
